{"id":6607,"date":"2025-09-14T10:04:13","date_gmt":"2025-09-14T10:04:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/really.zonky.org\/?p=6607"},"modified":"2025-09-14T10:04:47","modified_gmt":"2025-09-14T10:04:47","slug":"the-reaction-to-the-charlie-kirk-killing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/really.zonky.org\/?p=6607","title":{"rendered":"The Reaction to the Charlie Kirk Killing"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

So some nutter has killed Charlie Kirk<\/a>, the well known right-winger. This is obviously bad (and I’m a left-winger), but the reaction to his killing is interesting to say the least …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“He’s Not Right-Wing”<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

And in come the denials as if “right-wing” is something to be ashamed of – now I <\/em> think it’s something to be ashamed of, but his fellow right-wingers would presumably think it’s fine. But they’re denying it. So let’s have a look at the signs :-<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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  1. “Charlie Kirk addressed and acknowledged the Great Replacement.<\/a>“. The “Great Replacement” is a white supremacist theory that there is some conspiracy to “replace” white folk. Charlie once claimed \u201cIf I see a Black pilot, I\u2019m going to be like, boy, I hope he\u2019s qualified,\u201d – plainly racist. Normally racist is a sign of a right-winger at least amongst reasonable folk.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  2. Raging misogynist: \u201cReject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You\u2019re not in charge.\u201d. Again most reasonable folk classify hatred of women as right-wing. <\/li>\n\n\n\n
  3. Kirk on vaccine mandates: \u201ca form of medical apartheid.\u201d. Now this is isn’t right-wing; it’s just nuts. And evil nuts at that.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  4. Most ironically: \u201cI think it\u2019s worth having a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,\u201d. <\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n

    And there’s more, far more<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Does this make him right-wing? Well yes, but more so – he was a toxic extremist holding views that effectively regarded “others” (women, black folk, homosexuals, etc) as sub-human with fewer rights than the classic rich white men. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Opposing such extremists is something folk should be celebrated for doing. But killing? No that’s just wrong. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    The Left Killed Him<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

    As we don’t currently know the motives of the killer, claiming that the left killed him is a bit premature. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    One of the related strands is the strange notion that the left is violent whilst the right is peaceful. However a US government survey of political violence shows something very different :-<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Ideology<\/td><\/td>1,563<\/td>\u2014<\/td>Percentage<\/td><\/tr>
    <\/td>Islamist<\/td><\/td><\/td>17.6<\/td><\/tr>
    <\/td>Left-wing<\/td><\/td><\/td>23.4<\/td><\/tr>
    <\/td>Right-wing<\/td><\/td><\/td>59<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

    (source: https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC9335287\/<\/a> )<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    So the 59% of all political violence is right-wingers – exceeding both left-wing and<\/em> islamists. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Surprised? No wonder – the right-wing is very<\/em> good at lying. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    They (the right) were very quick to start blaming the left even claiming Democrats were effectively urging the murder of Kirk. Well, for a start, the Democrats aren’t leftist – they’re far too right wing for this<\/em> leftist. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    And even if the left in general (and Democrats) criticise Kirk for some of his positions, that isn’t encouraging political violence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    But ultimately we don’t know<\/em> what motivated the killing of Charlie Kirk. There’s just as many hints that he was right-wing as hints that he was left-wing. But let’s stop pointing fingers until we know<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Even if that’s less fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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